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[Dr. Mitch]

Butterfly Photino + gume tenergy 05 i tihar grip-s prodano

http://www.megaspin.net/store/default.asp?pid=b-photino

Stiga Ebenholz VII (drvo je bilo reparirano oko drške) + gume tenergy 05 rabljene-- 400 kn prodano

http://tabletennisequipment.dandoy-sports.com/en/product_info.php?pName=stiga-ebenholz-nct-vii&cName=blades

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[Iceman]

jebote, ovaj Photino su na linku nahvalili ko da je svjetsko cudo

jel igra neko s njim za informacije iz prve ruke?
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Galaxy: K-5, T-4, T-8, K-6
Avalox: J-Aramid,
Butterfly: Photino, Maze

FH : Tenergy
BH : Palio Macro Era (played with XIOM Zeta on some of these blades)

I have considered Butterfly Maze as a standard for speed, since lot of people, including myself played with it.

Physical appearance and handle

I tried FL of all these blades. Appearance-wise none of these blades are poor. Photino and J-Aramid has hinoki outer ply, which looks and feels nice but slightly prone to splintering, and a lot prone to dents.

T-4 and T-8 claims to have ayous top plays, but I doubt. The top ply looks very much like hinoki, including a engraving with a number that starts with HKY (in T-4).

K-5 and K-6 also claims to have ayous top ply, and feels more like it. The top ply is harder and has hairline grooves on it. And is completely resistant to splintering. So no sealing is required. But I see a problem if you reglue. It may soak up some glue and get heavier over time. I personally prefer this harder top ply than the softer hinoki, as it reacts slightly better with my hard Tenergy 05 sponge.

K-5, K-6 and J-Aramid has Kevlar / Aramid layers (Kevlar is just a brand subset of Aramid), while T-8 has Arylate Carbon layers, Photino has Zylon fibre (no Carbon), and T-4 is unique that it has 4 thin Carbon fleece/layer.

The handle style of T-4 and T-8 are a little on thicker side, while K-5 probably marginally thinner handle among all of these, J-Aramid and Photino are average and closer to K-5 than T series.

Look wise: Photino, Maze > T-4, T-8, K-5 > J-Aramid >>> K-6

Weight
This will of course vary from piece to piece, but as per the ones I got.

Photino is lightest. Others didn’t strike me as significantly light or heavy. T series are probably slightly heavier than K series due to bigger head size. J-Aramid is okay light in spite of its head size.

Speed
This is probably easiest to compare, and I find it’s markedly different from how the manufacturers rate it. My rating below is based on considering Maze as 10.

T-8 – 13
T-4 – 12.5
J-Aramid – 12
Photino – 11.5
K-5 – 11.5
Michael Maze – 10
K-6 – 9.5/10

Dwell Time

K-6 > K-5, Photino > J-Aramid > Maze >> T-4 > T-8

T-4 and T-8 has pretty low hold time, the ball rebounds crisply without much chance to adjust your stroke.

K-5 and Photino allows nice dwell time, particularly K-5. I love this blade for this. J-Aramid also allows nice dwell-time better than Mizutani Jun IMO, but not better than Photino. I played MJ only for a short time.

K-6 is slower and has even higher dwell time, but low speed.

Hard hits and loop drives:
They work better in order of speed. T-8 is best, and K-6 doesn’t cut it.

Control

Exactly in sequence of their dwell time

Forehand Loops

I loved J-Aramid and K-5, they seem to have more perfect speed and control balance for loops. T-8 and T-4 with such low dwell are okay for great winning loops, but difficult to balance in FH and BH equally for a 2 wing looper, like me.

Photino is a little funny. It too has the perfect combination for speed and dwell, but I couldn’t loop that great with it. I think it could be the frequency of vibration, or the light blade or something, or may be just the feeling, that makes you feel felt as if the center of gravity is no right where it is supposed to be while looping. Again when I tried to balance the blade on my finger, it was okay just like other blades. K-5 is slightly head heavy with Tenergies, and although I don’t usually like head heavy blades, my experience here was different.

Forgivingness

K-6 > K-5, Photino > J-Aramid >>>> T-4 > T-8

Blocks

Accuracy on blocks is same as “forgivingness”. But higher speed blades has better rebound. If you consider control and ability to punch block Photino is best.

Photino > K-6, Maze > K-5 > J-Aramid > T-8 > T-4

IMO, stiff but slow blades help in blocking and it’s a balance between the 2. pl note T-8 blocks better than T-4.

Throw:
K-6, Maze and T-4 has higher throw, followed by K-5, J-Aramid, Photino, and then T-8 has really low throw.

Pushes
Expectedly, K-6 and Maze being slower and high dwell, are best in this department. Others nothing special.

Reaction with Tenergy
This may be my hallucination. But I feel the harder ayous top ply of K-5 and K-6 gets better out of Tenergy sponge compared to Maze or J-Aramid or Photino.

But yes when you go to the level of T-4 and T-8 with the very thin top wood layer, the Carbon / Arylate shows up in your shots, and that is altogether a different level of Tenergy speed and spin.

My BH
Used to be my major problem area, now much better. Improved steadily with slower blades, but with K-6 my FH suffers so much, that I selected K-5 as the best balance.

Price
I found price no way related to characteristics of the blades.
Photino >> Maze > J-Aramid >> K-5, K-6 > T-4 > T-8
Or more precisely: Butterfly > Avalox > Galaxy
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[Dr. Mitch]